Top Docs Vodcast with David Haase, MD on MaxWell Care
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- The importance of understanding “What is your health for?”
- The type of medicine we practice at MaxWell Clinic
- Why creating health is more valuable than diagnosing and treating disease
- The effectiveness of treating the root causes of disease, rather than just the symptoms
- And much more
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so let’s learn more about the Maxwell
Care Program built to find and address
the underlying root causes of disease
and health dysfunctions so you can get
better stay better and maximize your
Wellness something we all want so here
to talk with us is Dr David hasse
founder and medical director at the
Maxwell Clinic
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this is the top docs podcast I’m your
host Bill claproth Dr haase thanks for
being here hey Bill Good To Be With You
absolutely so why do you say one of the
most important questions to ask
ourselves is what is your health for
well yeah because you know you rarely
ever get anything that you really want
unless you are clear upon your goal
and you know what most of the time
people you know it’s kind of something
we don’t even talk about like why do we
just assumed of course we want to be
healthy right but why aren’t you
are there are there Health behaviors
that you haven’t been able to overcome
are there things that you haven’t looked
into I mean do you have enough
motivation behind
your desire do you do you really know
how precious your health is that if you
don’t have your health
you can’t have uh enjoyment with regard
to what’s going on your life you can’t
have experiences your relationships are
limited your ability to contribute in
the world is impaired if you if you want
to have part of your legacy being a
grandparent you know that enables their
grandchildren to know that they are
loved all of those things are not
possible but if you’re aware of them if
you know if you are
if you’re asked the question and I’m
asking it right now for anybody
listening ask what is your health for
what do you want it for is it for to be
that Legacy grandparent is it to be
um you know to to leave behind you know
some the world better than you left it
is it for you to experience you know
hiking Kilimanjaro
um is it that you want to be pain-free
so that you can be present for those
people in your life and and be be a net
positive in their life is it so that you
can you know enjoy the the fun of having
a great body and all of the things that
you can do with that body and you know
so what do you want your health for yeah
is is a clarifying question and and man
the power it gives people
the power people have when they get
really clear and what are they after
then they start getting curious about
how do I get it
so all good questions we should be
asking ourselves for sure so what kind
of medicine do you practice
well it’s been a I started at Vanderbilt
Medical School and went to the Mayo
Clinic and got residency trained family
medicine and practice rural family
medicine for a time I became board
certified in integrative medicine and
holistic medicine I was one of the
people who helped start functional
medicine I teach for the institute for
functional medicine but you know we
always just strive here at Maxwell
Clinic to practice good medicine and and
you know it’s you know there’s lots of
Brands out there as far as oh I do this
and I do that
I think um you know there’s there’s
always a struggle to say what kind of
medicine do I practice
but I can say what we try to do is
always put the person at the center
always make sure that that individual
we’re looking at cause rather than just
the symptoms that may occur that we are
forming a therapeutic partnership with
our patient and that we are being
curious we we commit to being curious
and to listen and to do what it takes to
help that person
awaken their own ability to heal because
that’s the
that’s the reality that just blew my
mind when I was at Mayo all of a sudden
I was standing there in the hallway of
St Mary’s hospital and I went wait a
second
I have a license to diagnose and treat
disease and that’s great I love it I
love my perfect I love my medical
colleagues and all the Specialists I
love them all but I realized I went to
medical school to figure out
what creates health
and and that is a little bit of a
different angle and that helps us for
that we have to understand how does the
body function and figure out what are
the barriers to that body functioning
better and remove those barriers and
what are the resources that body needs
and then put in those resources
um and and that’s the medicine that we
practice you know the medicine we
practice would actually be called
salutogenic medicine which means the
creation of Health
the creation of Health I like that I
want to follow up with you you said
earlier you work to get to the cause not
just treat the symptoms why is it so
important to get to the root cause of
disease yeah it’s not just myself but
all the clinicians here at Maxwell
Clinic we have had multiple clinicians
and multiple different area individuals
who have various areas of interest and
but it’s a unifying idea that we don’t
we want to treat people as we want to be
treated what’s the health care I want I
don’t want to keep going back to my
doctor just so I can maintain my disease
or you know you know if if possible if
you’re going to actually create healing
maybe you know resolve that problem you
have to find out why that problem
occurred in the first place so
hypertension is a good example we’re
going to be doing a webinar on
hypertension this week and and I’m
excited about that hypertension is such
a dang boring topic so boring and and it
and actually the official title flag
retention is like essential hypertension
what a stupid name and and it just and
it basically means like well
you just have it
and congrats and that is just BS I’m I
just I just call BS on that one right
that means either we’re not looking hard
enough or we’re not being curious enough
and and I’m gonna I’m gonna correct
something you asked you said why is it
important find that underlying cause we
should almost always make causes because
health is a very multifactorial process
it’s not just one thing this is people
have kind of been lied to by the
pharmaceutical industry that you just
need one pill for your ill you know that
here it is it’s one pill for your ill
and but health health is the
connectedness the wholesome
connectedness of many things that has a
very high level of resiliency and a high
level of adaptability health is so much
more than just the absence of a disease
or a diagnosis and so when we’re trying
to create health we actually have to be
really curious and think from multiple
different angles about what are the
causes of that individual being in the
situation they are in right so let’s
talk more about that testing and finding
that out one of your philosophies at
Maxwell Clinic is test don’t guess why
is that important and what type of
testing Can you offer patients they
might not find elsewhere hmm
well even before tests don’t guess
the first thing we do is listen
because there are all kinds of places
you nowadays there’s direct to Consumer
lab testing available on every web page
and and there’s there’s all kinds of
people who would love to take your blood
or your body fluid and tell you what to
do be a some computer program and
um the number of patients who have
wasted so much money
um you know thinking that you know it
was good intention and I want to say I
have huge respect for people that take
their health into their own hands and
want to dig into that but the problem is
that that’s often more marketing than
medicine
and if you’re going to really address
your underlying cause it it would be
good to talk to somebody who has had a
lot of experience in the complexity of
that situation
when something’s too simple in
healthcare you’re being marketed to
all right that’s that’s a really good if
it’s if it’s too good to be true too
simple to be true it probably is and and
I love things to be simple I don’t want
things to be complex but God darn it you
know the human brain is the most complex
structure in the known universe and and
that’s just one part of our body so to
to
so anyway I think it’s always important
for us first to listen even before we
test so that’s the first part and I I
think that things like functional
medicine
um you know he often here’s some
individuals have gone to doctors that
practice functional medicine they’ve got
a bunch of tests and and they’re
recommended to you know uh to change
this diet and take the supplement and do
this
but they haven’t been listened to
so I think listening is really the most
important first step
then testing
um gosh do I love objective data and I
like objective data because the human
brain is biased every one of us has
shaped a brain according to all the
experiences of our life every doctor
that you have seen is you’re seeing them
with all the context of every patient
they have seen before and all of their
training and they have certain ruts that
they live in they have certain belief
patterns that they live in and and you
have those ruts and belief patterns
yourself and so here you have a person
with a biased brain meaning another
person with a biased brain and
unfortunately now well fortunately
sometimes it works out and it’s just
what you need but sometimes it doesn’t
and and so I really don’t like to
um
you know what we call you know smoke
your own dope right you know let’s let’s
be cautious not to
um uh believe our own preach our own uh
assumptions
and so testing is a wonderful way to
either confirm or deny clinical
suspicions because when you do a test
even when you’re doing these broad-based
uh tests like we do you should have we
we always have a suspicion in mind
what is it what’s underneath there
so now coming back to your question
about well what kind of testing do we do
um it’s arguable that there’s very few
clinics in exist that do have more
contracts with various Labs across the
world than we do I think we’re up to
over 35 different Labs uh all from all
the way from Greece and Japan and
Australia individual Labs that have
individual capabilities that maybe you
we use those labs very infrequently uh
you know our main lab is Lab Core we can
get a huge amount done with basic
Laboratory Testing but then
sometimes looking at stool testing you
know what is what is going on with the
health of the gut immune testing looking
for markers of genetic Health
toxicity testing nutrient testing
and um but all of that still needs to be
targeted because nobody has
um you everybody has a limit how much
blood there is to be taken number one
let’s just start with that limit people
have limits on the amount of information
they want people have limits on the
amount of money they can spend to do
some of these tests there aren’t even if
they’re covered by insurance right you
know and and that whole covered by
Insurance business the number of people
who miss out on getting information that
they need because well it wasn’t covered
by my insurance is terrible right and so
remember your insurance company is not
insurance companies are never been known
to be the most Progressive organizations
in the world right right insurance
companies are some of the most
regressive organizations in the world
yeah and so
um yeah and we don’t don’t just do
Laboratory Testing we also do
quantitative EEG measuring the brain
waves and comparing those against FDA
registered normative databases of
average normal brain waves
um we do Optical scanning we have
scanners that measure the micro
circulation which is your capillaries
and what are the protective lining
inside the capillaries uh what you know
that’s something called the glycocalyx
we measure body composition analysis
analysis and cellular health
and again these are it’s not that
everybody needs every test it’s a fact
of what are you after first of all what
do you want your health for and then
what is the future you desire and then
what we want to know is where are you
now right and then we figure out a gap
between where you are now and where you
want to go and then let’s then let’s
take let’s discern let’s let’s take what
we know and be
you know let’s take a little time to
think about well what would be the the
best approach where we could hit the
most things simultaneously you know what
what is what’s going to require the
least investment of your limited
resources of time money energy and
effort and apply those so you can have
the most benefit possible and then we
run that experiment right every one of
us every one of us we call I call Life
an experiment of one
right uh there’s nobody like us nobody
has our genetics and has had our whole
life even identical twins they didn’t
have the same life and they um so
what we are what we need to do in good
health care is to do uh partner with our
patients to devise you know the the most
wholesome experiments we possibly can
absolutely and to run those experiments
and then track them in relationship and
that’s what that’s uh relationship is
really the then the next most important
ingredient yeah so where where are you
now where do you want to go and then
test not guess to confirm your suspicion
so your clinic also provides services
and capabilities not available Under One
Roof anywhere else in the Southeast can
you tell us about that
well sure we you know we are the we are
the uh largest Center for outpatient
therapeutic plasma exchange which is
really a remarkable therapy that has
potential for
um known ability to treat uh severe
autoimmune disease but also potential
for uh treating neurodegeneration and uh
supporting healthy longevity super
exciting field there but we’re really
the largest Center outpatient Center of
its kind in the Southeast uh we Pro we
have an integrated Center where we
provide some of the most advanced
quantitative EEG and EEG neurofeedback
we have an IV Suite that we can utilize
intravenous nutrition and and other IV
therapies for treatment
we have hyperbaric chamber we have a
regenerative orthopedic medicine
specialist who is a you know 20-year
veteran of of doing regenerative
Orthopedics basically helping people’s
joints feel better and stay better he’s
a former Olympic Athlete and just a
wonderful wonderful human being
we have multiple diagnostic facilities
we we just uh received our OCTA which is
a advanced machine to examine the retina
and assess the health of the vascular
system in the retina that’s going to be
in one of our research trials we have
multiple IRB approved research trials
that are going on at our facility and
uh we have a diverse number of
practitioners that each have their own
individual strengths we provide IV
ketamine Services IV ketamine is amazing
for helping to
address people that are stuck in very
severe depression anxiety or trauma
um you know really everything that we
have here
um has come about because of my passion
of how do we create Health you know it’s
not just to do something different oh my
gosh the number of things that we’ve
gotten rid of is huge because they just
didn’t help and there’s there’s all
kinds of folks out there that have a
magic pill or a magic potion or a magic
test that is appropriate
and I don’t I think everything has its
place right but
yeah so your clinic definitely does
offer things available not anywhere else
that’s for sure you also offer a program
called MW care what is MW Karen is that
the best way for people to get started
with you oh Maxwell care so Maxwell care
is really a and so we’re going to
celebrate our 20th year uh this year and
we’re very excited about that you know
so this has been a long time coming uh
and we’ve I have been experimenting with
what’s the best way to get the most out
of your care what you know
um we we stayed inside insurance for 16
years I tried everything possible to
provide this Advanced Care inside of the
insurance Network
um and and when you have to choose
between bankruptcy and continuing your
passion then you have to have to I’m
going to continue to pursue my mission
so we left the insurance framework and
interestingly enough the cost of our
patients went down we have some really
interesting analyzes on that and then we
said wow well now that we’re outside of
this these ridiculous rules and
regulations of insurance how do we
provide what people actually need rather
than what just checks this box or that
box for insurance yeah it turns out that
people need relationship
almost every amazing outcome that we
happen that we saw happen happened in
the context of a longer-term
relationship it was a partnership with a
clinician and a patient that had enough
time
and each person committed to a positive
outcome so in our Maxwell care we have
put aside the time necessary for
clinicians to hear to listen to patients
we have a very extensive intake process
so we can make that time the most
efficient for patients as we want to
always you know deliver the the best
that we possibly can for the minutes
that we have
and our Maxwell care process puts
together what are the most high value
evaluations that are going to give us a
a great initial understanding of anybody
that walks through our door
and that process is something that we
continue to hone we continue to see how
can we do that better so our Maxwell
Care Program
Partners at this current time a
clinician with a patient and that
clinician is selected amongst the
clinicians we have we have medical
doctors we have Physicians assistants we
have nurse practitioners
psychotherapists
um Orthopedic Specialist as I said
but we we really think about what is the
personality what are the challenges that
are represented you know what is that in
what is that individual patient need so
that’s our first step this matching you
know being mindful of the importance of
relationship right and then we have a
very unique group of individuals we call
Patient Advocates and the patient
advocate is there to do two things one
to be an advocate for the patient
um in you know with regard to what their
needs are if there’s anything that
they’re not getting from the clinic or
that there’s a trouble with
communication you know they are there to
make sure to jump in and make sure that
happens but also they’re an advocate for
that patient with regard to that
patient’s commitments to themselves and
and what what did they say they were
going to do so they can follow up and
actually get the results that they
desire
um and it that has been amazing so we
have a team structure here and we’re and
it’s also wonderful how many people that
have come to us as patients and turn up
working at here end up working here
because we have a really wonderful
community of people it’s a it’s an
amazing team that cares for each other
and then that that leaks out you know
that seeps out into what happens with
our patients you know Health Care should
not be something that causes sickness
unto itself
and we’re
we’re trying to be really aware of how
can we not just trans wholesomely
transform the health of humans but also
of the Health Care System itself it’s
really it’s very exciting yeah we talk
about relationships and listening
something everybody wants but
unfortunately when you go to the doctor
a lot of times that’s not what you get
so you’re changing that model if you
will and certainly the success of the
Maxwell Clinic is a testament to that
yeah it’s it’s rewarding as can be it is
rewarding as can be you know when people
engage you know listen you have to have
a lot of compassion for somebody that is
going to say gosh I I am struggling they
have to overcome their own denial
they have to overcome their own uh shame
sometimes maybe they’re maybe they feel
bad about the fact that they haven’t
made the changes that they said they
were going to make or
um you know there’s a whole host of
things that keep us beaten down and some
people have terrible Trauma from the
health care environment itself just look
at how many people have white coat
hypertension right that’s when your
blood pressure goes up just when you go
to the doctor’s office well there’s a
good dang reason for that right because
people in back in their past has kind of
felt traumatized around it and you know
immediately their stress goes up when
they walk in yeah and and it’s often if
often um it’s often kind of cute how
many people say wow I get my blood
pressure registered here and it’s normal
but I go to my I go to this business
list and and it’s high and uh and anyway
um and yes we’ve checked our blood
pressure machines and they’re working
fine uh but
um now it’s an honor to get to engage
with humans
um from a whole from a wholesome or a
holistic basis yeah it’s it’s again we
just try to deliver the care that we
would want for ourselves yeah now and
and we have all kinds of room uh you
know we’re very very proud of what we
deliver and we’re always endeavoring to
continue to make it better absolutely
any of you left us with some great
phrases here that I know that will will
remember pill for an ill test don’t
guest and test don’t guess and then more
marketing than medicine I mean that
really that really Rings true when you
think about our current state of
medicine today Dr hussy thank you so
much for your time if someone wants to
learn more or to book an appointment
with you what should they do yeah go to
maxwellclinic.com and that’s the best
way to start engaging with Maxwell care
and our clinicians that are here at
Maxwell Clinic uh to be partnered up
with the right one given your
circumstances so that would be Maxwell
clinic.com
Dr Jose thank you so much for your time
this has really been informative thanks
again oh thank you very much Bill take
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